This has been rattling around in my brain lately. The JW's claim 8 million members worldwide, but we know that so many people are leaving every day, as many of them wind up on here or other ex-JW recovery boards. And attendance is decreasing at KH's and assemblies or conventions. According to those who have attended this past summer the numbers of those who are being baptized are lower than usual. So where is the increase? Do they continue to count ALL who have ever been baptized, even if the are Df'd, Da'd or have faded? Are we still part of the numbers of the "great crowd"?