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Re: Governing Body (reply)
I don't believe they are the complete fraud many people think they are. Many of them have truly dedicated their life to serve big J, and somewhere along the line, big J and the organization became blurry, or perhaps melded into one. What...
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YammerHammer

10/19/14 15:40:23
Re: Adam and Eve? Or evolution?  (reply)
In Cacky's defense... evolution can be a pretty hard thing to wrap your head around. It took me more than 30 years... and when I first left the religion, I still wasn't really sure. A few years later, I started reading, and you are right...
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YammerHammer

10/12/14 01:54:29
Re: Adam and Eve? Or evolution?  (reply)
Linda, I have one of his books laying around here somewhere... "The Power of Myth." I had a hard time reading it for some reason... I think I was long gone from the religious grip the Borg had on me, but I do remember some interesting...
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YammerHammer

10/10/14 02:51:06
Re: Blazing argument on another board. NEED quick references, thanks! (reply)
Or....... you could tell this person to download the secret Elder's manual and read for him/her self what is and is not a disfellowshipping offense--here's the link: ...
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YammerHammer

09/27/14 04:40:13
Re: Fiance and whatnot (reply)
Psychologically, there must be deeper pulls.  Like belonging.  Feeling noble, or superior.  Expressing loyalty, which in itself means belonging and re-affirming belonging.  In evolutionary terms, we have been prey much longer than...
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YammerHammer

09/26/14 01:32:09
Re: Fiance and whatnot (reply)
"her father could no longer be an active elder due to his daughter's decision to marry an unbeliever."I know a situation where this happened. The daughter of an elder married a "worldly" guy, as they say, and was removed. If this is what...
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YammerHammer

09/25/14 01:07:19
Re: Can you believe a JW when they are nice to you? (reply)
OK Dianne, I see where you are coming from... in my mind this morning when I wrote that post, I had it turned around... I was thinking of "delusion" and confused "disillusioned" with "delusion." Sorry about that... sometimes I think my...
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YammerHammer

09/21/14 03:04:09
Re: Can you believe a JW when they are nice to you? (reply)
Dianne, Personally, I don't think you are disillusioned at all. In my head, I play out what will happen if one of my former "loving" friends, who tell my wife that they still love me, and that is why they shun me, ever dares approach me...
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YammerHammer

09/20/14 16:41:40
Re: Can you believe a JW when they are nice to you? (reply)
I would tell him to lose the suspicion and be glad that his daughter now wants more contact with him. This is his chance to not only tell his side of the story but to demonstrate to her that his love, unlike that of those within the...
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YammerHammer

09/20/14 03:44:01
Re: The JW education trap (reply)
It's a shame true believers in the movement don't recognize that such people can also appreciate and add value to the Christian path, if they so choose. Ian, I honestly believe that if there were no college educated...
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YammerHammer

09/14/14 23:43:57
Re: The JW education trap (reply)
...we couldn’t conscientiously support a course of “higher education” for the following reasons: - We knew that it would take you away from the spiritual values that we had tried to instill in you. - There would be no time to associate...
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YammerHammer

09/13/14 15:00:14
Re: Faith......  (reply)
Growing up and being raised as a Witness, I always accepted that faith came with knowledge, the more knowledge a person had about "the truth," the Bible, of God and Jesus, the deeper the person's faith would become... the stronger it...
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YammerHammer

09/11/14 03:37:20
Re: Adam and Eve? Or evolution?  (reply)
What I will not do is proclaim as fact things that are theory.Just wondering if you mean scientific theory or the other definition of theory that most people use interchangeably with "opinion" or "supposition" or "hunch," "guestimate," ...
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YammerHammer

09/10/14 01:30:50
Re: Why do people still believe the Watchtower org? (reply)
What Sam said.And they aren't really motivated by finding or knowing the truth--not "duh troof"-- that's just become an alternate term that refers to the Organization along with all the followers. I think my mother was one of those who...
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YammerHammer

09/06/14 20:46:08
Re: Adam and Eve? Or evolution?  (reply)
There are a couple of things that make evolution difficult for people to accept:1. Deep time: Our life spans are about 80 years, if we are lucky, and when we think back to our childhood from old age, it seems so very long ago. My gramps...
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YammerHammer

09/06/14 17:08:08
Re: Damage Control in the Wake of the JW Doctrine of Headship (reply)
I just now read through this thread for the first time. I feel compelled to post something, but so much of what I would say has already been posted. But maybe a couple of points to emphasize here...Mel mentioned the Buddhist theme of...
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YammerHammer

09/05/14 16:38:51
Re: Update on me! (reply)
Well done. Congrats on being open with your family about this... although it can be painful, remember it's also painful for them. They will experience some dissonance in the future and it will not be easy for them. I could never cut off...
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YammerHammer

09/04/14 04:27:45
Re: Have you ever really thought about it (reply)
I love it Punky! It's funny how everyone is dressed up in their own native costumes when Big J obliterated all their cultures at Armageddon.
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YammerHammer

09/04/14 00:28:57
Re: Adam and Eve? Or evolution?  (reply)
The truth is: evolution is a fact. If Adam and Eve existed, they had ancestors dating back nearly 3 million years... I give you Lucy  https://iho.asu.edu/about/lucy%E2%80%99s-story . There are so many books and articles on this, one of...
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YammerHammer

09/03/14 17:40:57
Re: How do we expose the delusion? (reply)
For me, it started with some really good questions, that ironically, one of my parent's "Bible Studys" asked. He and his wife were coming out of Mormonism, they both doubted the Joseph Smith story, and they really doubted the guy ever...
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YammerHammer

08/28/14 01:12:31

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