It does make you wonder if the totally 'sappy' types like the ones you've described above Bartender ... are in fact hiding some kind of bizarro behaviour behind closed doors. I've met JW families who are so sickeningly spiritually minded and so into everyone ... that you wondered if they were in fact high on some kind of drug or other ... but that would have been my negative 'I'm outta here as soon as a I can get out' sentiments of the time no doubt.