se7en wrote:
* certain that I am unaware of the answers


I'm done now for real this time. javeca don't reply to me please.. I don't wanna think about this anymore

I do not believe in  = I do not express belief



There is very little point arguing with prejudiced people.  They won't change their minds, they won't be reasonable, courteous, or whatever.  The only point that I can see is to get them talking enough so that their prejudice is exposed for all to see.

As for Javeca's contention that atheism is a belief because it's a positive denial of the existence of god(s), I have to ask: which god(s)?  Thor?  I think I could make a pretty good case for his non-existence.  Huitzilopochtli, the Aztec god of war?  Actually, he might exist.  Your god?  How on earth could I disbelieve in your god when I have no idea which god that is?  Your concept of 'god' is different from that of every other believer on this forum, and probably from 99% of Catholics even.  Don't believe me?  Try getting into a discussion about the nature of god, next time you're in church.  So how could I possibly hold as a belief that something unique to your imagination doesn't exist?  More importantly, why the hell should I bother, or care?  And I don't.  People are free to believe in whatever gods they wish to conjure up in their imaginations, and it's nothing to me.  It's nothing until these people organize, and start acting as if their gods are real, and threatening me or my way of life.  That's when people get killed.  Glenn Beck would be just another lunatic with a microphone, except for one little detail: every day of the week, he goes on the TeeVee and tries to organize people, or push individual people, into violating other people's rights (I don't know what the death toll stands at right now, maybe a dozen or so killed if you include the suicides of the Beck listeners who 'go postal').  It's hard to pinpoint individual killers' actions directly on Glenn Beck, because these people tend to listen to several, and buy the books of several others.  But it's a pretty safe bet that Beck personally is responsible for several deaths, much like Bill O'Reilly is partially responsible for the death of Dr. Tiller. 

No, I don't mean responsible in the sense that they can be prosecuted in a US court of law, I mean morally responsible.  As in, if either of those men actually had a conscience, they wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

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  When words become unclear, I shall focus with photographs. When images become inadequate, I shall be content with silence.
-- Ansel Adams