I want to thank, and may i add, LOVE you ALL for your kind thoughts and encouragement. . . it's good to know that there are some people who can understand what i'm going through...and all you say is true! I guess the whole thing came out Sunday on Mother's Day, i had gone to the Cemetery with my son, and started to think about my own mom, my sweet always loyal mom, and then then all the emotions came out with regards to my daughter and me and the JWs and her summer visit, and all the JW restrictions associated therewith, and suddenly i was a mess, my blood pressure rose and all i wanted to do is call her up, shake her out of that brainwashed 'we're perfect - your doomed'  mindset.  But of course not, it's not me. Although, in the past, without getting into the religion part, because they're not allowed to talk about religion with df'd ones like myself, i nevertheless told her that Jesus died for ALL people. Of course, i got no response, but maybe somewhere deep inside, it'll register. I pray truly for her to 'snap out of it' so to speak. I tell myself to leave it in GOD's hands, time reveals all, etc. etc.  but i guess i'm getting impatient now.. but i also have to contend with her a--hole husband - talk about a manipulator, he has totally removed her to the countryside, where there are not even any buses, she has to depend on him completely (as she has no job, 3 kids) - so he has her exactly where he wants her. Also, he is one of these zealous holier-than-thou witnesses, who really likes to control things. He's the typical 'i'm the King of the castle' type of guy and she's the oh so submissive good wife. I want to puke. Of course, he takes full advantage of his power and head of the household role, and i shudder that they might even have a 4th kid.  Then, i'll  NEVER see her again.   Well, i guess i really do have to take it easy now, and see how things go.  Maybe, one day.... after all, it took me a long time to come to see that Org. for what it really is... so maybe she will too one day.   That is my prayer.   Thanks again to all of you.