Thanks for the advice. Geowyn, that's pretty powerful, I am glad to hear your comparison to Islam worked, they were all good points you made. Andria: I think you're right. We had several incidents of child abuse in our halls throughout the years and I think maybe pointing out how the elders mishandled those situations would be a good place to start. And yeah, I'd love them to "prove me wrong" with researching cold hard facts about their own religion...