PHR -"Submariners" - that's a great term!  I, as a born-in-er" looked down my nose at these ones.  They always seemed to have a hint of scandal about them.  Probably the nicest of people, but no one would talk to them much.  I wonder why they bothered.

Here's one - How about the A-sexual, very nun-like sisters who dressed very matronly and never ever did anything to "pretty" themselves up.  They were almost orgasmically in love with Jehovah and the org. and would tear up practically every time they answered at a meeting, yet you just knew they would probably be frigid if they ever got married.

Valerie