O sure, I've heard all about how there are grey areas in life.  But take Sugar's signature, for example. Here we have nice and big white letters, Shunned, up against a black background.  The meaning, and all that it connotes, could not be any clearer.
So? Are you accusing me of defending the Jw's? Because I very obviously am not and have said so explicitly multiple times already. I dont know how to be any more clear, YES there is bad, but we can take away lessons we learned from a bad experience. 

I tend to agree with this.  Milking it would be equivalent to a JW trying to milk something good out of Christendom.  I mean, don't they view Christendom as apostate and a major part of false religion?  That seemed to be Russel's view of the matter: 

Icon_wtf2  dude, wait nvm thats my name, what in the world are you talking about? Your making me doubt your status as an ex jw with such comments. have you ever heard jw's say anything positive about christendom?!? I sure as hell havent. And No, your absolutely wrong in terms of all chruches being apostate. According to the jw's apostate is leaving the jw faith, cathlolics and other religions never left and are not apostate. JWs would opt to call these churces either "pagan" or "worldy" or something else derogatory but not apostate. 

I dont care about russell, im trying to help people move on here by stimulating though and enabling people to take away bits of positive, not by getting angry over Russells pointless lies. I feel this is therapeutic and good for mental health, especially after leaving a org like the jws. please dont hijack this thread with nonsense. 


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