pioyap, I am not expressing contemp for the catholic church by quoting Einstein. You quoted him so i simply showed the picture isnt completely black and white, Einstein was not a fan of organized religion so lets not pretend he was (regardless if he thought some institutions helped more than others). Im not aruging the validity of the church, how many times must I say this? Im simply stating similarities which you agree to but then go to rationalize. Your rationalizations work for you, I do not find them convincing. And Im not debating them here. 

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