Thanks Sharon, Magenta and Rhonda, I love you too. Mothers who understand certainly make us feel less alone.

Rhonda I'm sure your guys will do well, we all of us worry about the the 'what ifs' in the future for our children. So many things to navigate on the growing journey, but at least your boys will be able to learn from their mistakes without the fear of censure or cutting off from the community they belong to. They too are secure in the love of their parents.

Back to success...............we have all overcome, many more are and will be overcoming the chains that have held them. Some of the red flags I now see clearly, were obscured for so long, but there none the less. Unexpected defections from the borg are a red flag it just may take a while for people to see and understand the significance of them. It is not pride that makes us leave as the gb would have the r&f believe, pride keeps them playing their deceptive game and wielding their power.

I see the borg as stuck in a time warp like the Amish, only their chosen time is 1940s or so. In time people will look at them as quaint and a little odd just like the Amish, they have already passed their heyday. They can have it!!