I can understand your point Mig.
And it's true....ultimately this is something a recovering person will have to want and also to take full responsiblity for.

It is a complex deal though having been through it. It does drain a person physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, financially, socially. So, when it does all that, it isn't always easy...

Lots of the same thoughts Rusty has aren't really much different than mine at the time.

I am always ready & willing to help another if there is anything else I can do.
This whole thread made me yesterday reflect again on what happened to me (especially the last year before I 'came to'). I remembered just how scary and horrible it could be. Stuff that I forgot came back to me even.

The only assurance I can give to Rusty is that it is possible to beat this thing, but doing it by yourself isn't really recommened.
I had support from a couple family members, AA, and I am also saying a higher power could have helped me too......

I still may post more later on as it does help me reflect on where I was and how I got better. I want to stay better and this is another way to do it.